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Interview: Knights Templar of Britannia Plans a Humanitarian Support for Tibet

March 7, 2010

Max French
The Tibet Post International
March 6, 2010

Dharamshala -- UK based spiritual organization
"Knights Templar of Britannia" is planing to
support Tibetan people to try and free themselves
of the Humanitarian problems. YC Dhardhowa,
editor of The Tibet Post International, talked to
Lord Christopher Macklin, a council member of
Knights Templar, who is involved in coordinating the project.

Q: Can you introduce yourself briefly?

Certainly, my name's Lord Christopher Macklin,
I'm a council member at the top of the Knights
Templar of Britannia. This is one of 36 orders
throughout England which the Vatican has studied
in the past, and in fact our order is the only
order which has a grandmaster that has ancestral
links to the ancient grandmasters of before. So
it is a proper order and we therefore have
ancient knowledge that the Knights Templars had
going back thousands of years, and also artifacts
which we have kept secret up ‘til now.

Q: What is the meaning of the Knights Templar of
Britannia? Is it devoted to a religious or spiritual purpose?

The Knights Templars are historically spiritual.
They are originally the Knights of the Temples,
and the ‘Temples' were the pyramids. The Knights
Templar used to guard the pyramids. These
pyramids were very special to the Knights Templar
and we are going to release the reasons why in the future.

Q: What are the objectives of the Knights Templar?

The Knights Templar are basically very spiritual
people. They have complete integrity, they do
many good works throughout the world. They get
involved in humanitarian projects, and also
within the order we have many different projects in England.

[People] have to have integrity when they join
the Knights Templar. People, if they want to, can
be trained as a Knight. To be trained they have
to become spiritual. [There are] many different
aspects of becoming a Knight, which are spiritual
abilities, for example manifestations.

Q: When was the Knights Templar of Britannia established?

It was established a long time ago. It's been
around for many years - I think it's 700 years
old and comes from the ancient Knights Templars.
In 1300 the Knights Templar disbanded. Because of
the order of the pope, the grandmaster at the
time, Jacques de Molay, was slow-roasted at the
stake. The pope ordered this because the King of
France put pressure on the pope to disband the
Knights Templars, because he had borrowed so much
money from them that he couldn't afford to pay it back.

Q: That's why, once the grandmaster was killed,
some Knights Templars disbanded into the Knights
Hospitalice, and others jumped onto ships and set
sail with all the artifacts and all the gold they
had and dispersed throughout the world.

A: Yeah, and what about the employers of the Knight Templars?

There's no employment. It's a spiritual
organization which is completely charitable.
People get involved in the Knights Templar on a charitable basis.

Q: How do people get involved in the Knights Templar of Britannia?

A: Some are very involved and have missions out
all over the world in Africa. There are things
going on in America - some are looking after soup
kitchens. People get involved all over the world,
but people can be as involved or uninvolved as they like.

Q: But are there any conditions to join? Are the requirements, Christianity?

A: No. It's not a Christian organization, it's a
spiritual organization. We understand how all the
religions come together, and how everything fits
together. That's why we're looking at writing a
book about the Knights templar. We recognize all religions.

Q: How are the Knights Templar of Britannia interested in Tibetan issues?

A: We don't like to see the humanitarian problems
which Tibet is having at the moment, and
therefore we support His Holiness and the Tibetan
people to try and free themselves of the
problems. We're hoping to release a big fund of
money in the next three or four months. One thing
you'll learn about the Knights Templar is the
determination [we have] is huge. Once we set a
goal we achieve it. Part of Buddhist teaching is
that if you believe something and you manifest
it, it will happen. I believe, with my colleagues
at the Knights Templar, that we are going to make
this fund available, and have manifested it and it will happen.

Q: 700 years of history is not a short period,
but what have been your main successes in the 21st century?

A: We've had many successes. What we realize is
that there's a lot of darkness at the moment
which is engineered from monetary greed. This
seems to be controlling the world at the moment.
Greed seems to have manifested within people all
over the world. What we're trying to do is
educate people to step back and think "the world
is not about money, it's about helping people."
It's about waking the spirituality within people,
to get them to start helping. That's really important to us.

You have to remember that the world's money is
held by the very few, and they're pulling all the
strings. It's our mission to try and turn that
around, and get people feeling positive again.
People live in fear at the moment, because the
economic situation in the Western countries is
very poor - people are in debt or can't pay their
bills - and because of that, because of the fear
factor and the negativity within them, they can't
become spiritual. What we hope to do is to
reeducate them to let go of that money-side and
help them to become spiritual. We have some ideas
for [doing] that in the future, which will be released.

Q: Yes, and you flew from the UK to Dharamsala to
meet Tibetan spiritual leader His Holiness the
Dalai Lama. Why is it important to meet His Holiness for your organization?

A: It's most important because His Holiness has
great wisdom, as you know. We have wisdom also,
and I think [ours] is symbiotic with His
Holiness' ideas. Therefore I'm very keen to meet
His Holiness to get some focus on how we can help
him and the Tibetan people, as well as how he can
help us to move forward with the projects we are
doing, of which there are many, and [which] are going to be huge.

Q: You've mentioned that you've already met some
officials from the Central Tibetan Government.

A: I've met the secretary who was excited to
arrange a meeting with the Prime Minister in
April. It's my mission to come back, because with
His Holiness and the Prime Minister behind what
we're doing, I think we can do some great work together.

Getting spirituality back and getting the Tibetan
people to manifest for the humanitarian problems
to be over is important. We're hoping to make the
fund available which we're starting to manifest
now in various forms, so hopefully in the next
three months we'll be able to help monetary-wise as well.

Q: If you couldn't meet with His Holiness this time, would you be discouraged?

A: I never get discouraged. One thing about
[myself], as I said, is when I set a goal I
achieve it, and I think His Holiness would back
me up on this because he is a spiritual person of
equal standing for myself... I think we're two
people with the ability to perform some amazing
things in the future, and that's why I'm very
excited to meet his Holiness. I know His Holiness
will meet me in the future, for sure, because he is a very beautiful spirit.

Q: You've had some media attention over the
discovery of a "Holy Nail", could you tell us about that?

When Jack de Molay was slow-roasted at the stake,
and [the Knights Templar's] ships set sail all
over the world, one of the fleet went via
Madeira, and they set new commandries up all over
the world to keep the Knights' Temple alive. Our
order manifested out of that. The "Holy Nail" was
in a box with particular Temple symbols which
[corresponds] to our records. We identified the
nail as Christ's crucifixion nail, which we've been guarding for 2000 years.

Now we've got joint ownership with the Prince of
Pontinha, so we're very excited about this find.
I think it's one of our momentous finds.

Q: Is that the photo in your hand?

A: It is. It's about four inches long.

A: Yeah, I see that in the photo.

When Christ was crucified, not many people know
this, but with crucifixion what they normally did
was they strapped [the victim's] arms up, then
put the nail through the bottom part of the arm to cause more pain.

The archaeologists confirm that the nail is from
the first or second century, and also that it had
been handled in a careful way by many people over
a long period of time. Obviously they can't
confirm that it was Christ's nail, but from our
records we can confirm that it was the nail which was lost in the fleet.

Q: And where is the nail now?

A: Well I can't really tell you! It's with our security.
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