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A Brief Synopsis Of Ninth Round of Talks: Envoys Of His Holiness

February 5, 2010

Edited by Max French, The Tibet Post International
Secret Tibet
February 3, 2010

Dharamshala -- The Tibet Post International, 2
February-A press conference held by Department of
Information and International Relations to raise
last week China-Tibet Talks between
representatives China and His Holiness the Dalai
lama, the question and answer session has
affiliated between envoys of His Holiness the
Dalai Lama with members of foreign, Indian and
Tibetan media. Following is a brief synopsis from The Tibet Post International.

Question 1: At the press conference today in
China, they are always ready to talk about Dalai
Lama's personal well-being, and there is
absolutely no rule to talk about Autonomy or real
autonomy in future, and there will be no
concession on their side. My question is, will
Tibetan government in exile resume talk with
current Chinese claim on Dalai Lama's personal well-being?

Answer: Our counterparts in Beijing announced
very well our position. His Holiness says no
personal quarrel with Chinese leadership. As we
clearly stated in our press statement, we also
made absolutely clear to Chinese leadership even
this time that the issue we discuss is issue of
Tibetan people, their future, their well-being,
and as I said very clearly to the Chinese
counterparts, very strongly, over and over again
that there is no personal matter that concerns
His Holiness, his status, his future that we need
to discuss. As a matter of fact for the last nine
rounds, even before that, ever since 1979 when we
have established direct relation with Chinese
government, the issue about His Holiness's
personal future and status has never been on the
agenda. This is a political rhetoric. And it is
very clear also on the Chinese reactions to the
specific issues that we have raised, that we are
discussing about issue of Tibet. It is for that
reason we in fact have pointed out that while
there is definitely vast gap upon approach. In
fact we have expressed that some of the actions
that the Chinese government has taken, including
the statements that was issued after the leading
groups meeting on the Tibet. That is to some
extent reflects some of the concerns that His
Holiness the Dalai Lama has expressed. It is very
clear that there is no issue that concerns
personal well-being of future of His Holiness the
Dalai Lama that we are discussing with Chinese
government. Your question was "Are we willing to
or are we ready to continue to deal with Chinese
government?" . Absolutely. They have also
conveyed to us repeatedly, during this time also,
the importance that they attach to the dialogue
process. And we also have conveyed to our Chinese
counterparts that His Holiness the Dalai Lama, in
fact I have told them very clearly that even
though this relation that we have with Chinese
government, was the initiated by Deng Xiao Ping
in 1979. But ever since it is the efforts of His
Holiness that has hastened this relation. Every
time it is His Holiness and Tibetan leadership we
have made efforts again and again to make sure
that this relation is maintained. So we will be
willing to continue, and in fact we feel that the
only way that the issue of Tibet could be
resolved is through direct dialogue between the
Chinese government and Tibetan leadership. So
this is very clear that we are committed to
continue the discussions. However, my colleague
Kalsang Gyaltsen and I made it very clear that in
orders for us to continue to have such talks,
there has to be some progress. The issues are
very delegate, very complex, and we have no
illusion that the differences could be resolved
over night, in another round of talks. It take
times and we also must have patience. I think we
have demonstrate clearly that do have patience.
However, we made very clear that in order for us
to continue this dialogue, there has to be some
progress. For example, there is very clear from
our statements, the Chinese government must sees
the baseless accusations against His Holiness,
calling him splits. His Holiness has over and
over, almost daily bases, has been saying
explicitly that looking for solutions to resolve
the Tibet problem within framework of PRC, within
the constitution of PRC. This made very very
clear on those conditions, with those
understanding that we continue to remain
commitment to continue the process of dialogue.

Question 2: Before you resume talks, do you want
to see some genuine signs of progress that
Chinese have to stop calling His Holiness splits?

Answer: I don't understand what do you mean by
resume, as far as we are concerned, we are in an
engagement, we are in the process of dialogue
particularly since 2002. And we are committed to
continue this person to person dialogue. Yes, but
we have made very clear that in order for us to
continue for some fruitful results, the Chinese
government has to take some steps such as, as I
said again, these baseless accusations against
His Holiness, and we told Chinese counterparts
very clearly that this brings tremendous discrete
to Chinese government. I mean whole world knows
that His Holiness is not splits. In fact I think
the free world knows His Holiness better than
Chinese leadership, unfortunately. And the
Chinese people even less because of lack of
freedom. So those things are very important, but
again I am not saying that as a condition.
Because we don't believe in imposing conditions,
not doing or lack to be imposed conditions but
yes we made very clear that there has to be some
tangible stage that will be taken. Meantime we
also told Chinese counterparts that we ourselves
will thoroughly everything Chinese counterparts
said to us, shared with us, conveyed to us, we
will take very seriously. We already have
reported to His Holiness this morning and to the
Kalon Tipa (Tibetan Prime minister). And we will
definitely in the next several weeks further
study, further analyze what they have conveyed to
us, and specially also the important documents
that were published after the rather important
meeting that was held in Being some weeks back.

Question 3: Generally speaking, this ninth round
of talk made some progress or not? At the same time, you mentioned

Answer: Unfortunately the mediate reaction of our
Chinese counterparts on one hand disappointing,
on the other hand I am not surprised. Again I
don't say as disrespect. I think the system and
its function are different from us that less
transparency, and we also know that we have no
illusions that our counterparts are very
competent and very experienced people, but
obviously that kind of system decisions are taken
very elaborate and very complicated process. So
in spite of their initial rather disappointing
reaction. As we stated clearly in our statements
we told our counterparts just as we will very
thoroughly very seriously reflect on what they
have conveyed to us on the important documents
they have issued, that they also must seriously
reflect and report the hierarchy of the
suggestions, of very constructive suggestions.
What is the real issue, as said earlier the issue
is not about the position of His Holiness. In
fact His Holiness has made it obviously clear
more than once that he has moral historical
responsibility to help the Tibetan people, find
the solution to their future with Chinese
leadership. Once that is accomplished, in fact he
made very clear that he won't hold any political
office. So our disagreement, our problem is the
real situation on the ground and all the Tibetan
areas. So therefore we have very sincerely
suggested, look what differences we have is , for
example, we feel the situation in Tibet is
absolutely deteriorating, Tibetan people are
unhappy, Tibetan people are suffering. Chinese on
the other hand, even this time our Chinese
counterparts, all of them, gave us pictures of
Tibet that Tibetan people are very happy, that
there is no issue of Tibet. In fact, some times
they go to extent of saying there is no issue of
Tibet. Next you had them holding this press
conference, among this press conference talking
about issue of Tibet. But anyway what I have
offered was that let us together, making efforts
to see the real situation. We made very clear, we
said "if tomorrow we find that the majority of
Tibetan people inside Tibet said that we are
happy, His Holiness the Dalai Lama will be the
happiest person. He would then definitely tell
China that now I am convinced, because together
we have been able to certain the true feelings of
the Tibetans. And if they are happy, I have no
quarrel, so this is one of the things we have
suggested not in a confrontational manner, but in
a very positive way. But sometimes they have some
kind of illusions, because some of the
counterparts, who are actually ethnic Tibetan,
shared with us their views. One senior person
said that he had been to many parts of Tibet in
recent months. One of them Nyima Tsering, from
Lhasa and has been vice governor for many years
and at the moment he is the vice chair of the
national people's congress in Lhasa. But I told
him very clearly that I have personal respect,
because you are both fellow Tibetans. But I said
don't think I am being arrogant, but I have been
living in exile for the last 50 years, but I can
say with confidence that I understand the true
feeling of the Tibetans much more and Tibetan
leader two of you. I mean these are some of the
facts they must accept. So we have meant that
very sincere offer to work together and I do
suddenly hope that with cool head that Chinese
are rational people reflect on it even though
initially their reaction was rather disappointing.

Question 4: What was Chinese government's
reaction to the explanatory note for 'Memorandum'...........?

Answer: The initial reaction from Chinese
government was disappointing. Because they felt
that all the memorandum is nothing but further
elaboration, further reinforcement of what we
have stated. And our earlier memo which
unfortunately they had outlined rejected. This is
how initially they saw it. But as we have tried
to highlight some of the issues that we have
tried to tackle is not explicitly, without any
doubt clarifies some of the concerns, whether
genuine or politically motivated, but
nevertheless some of the concerns are Chinese
government have raised. For example; they said
that our memorandum challenges the supremacy of
Chinese hierarchy, it challenges the Chinese
constitutions, it challenges the law making
authorities of National People's Congress, etc.
so this is not what we handed to our Chinese
counterparts. We have, not just in a superficial
manner, but in a very elaborate very detailed
manner we showed them exactly what our position
is. At the same time we also have pointed out
what is the core issue again. The core issue is
about the future of the Tibetan people that we
also have very explicitly mentioned. Again with
cool headedness and with true realities on the
ground, as you know you are confronted to the
situation on the ground, that I think
uncontrollably unmanageable. We made very clear
that the only we can find a situation that is
beneficial not only to the Tibetans to Chinese
friends, to all the nationalities living within
the republic of China. Chinese government needs
to work with His Holiness, with the cooperation
of His Holiness, with the blessing of His
Holiness. So again as a part of initial
reactions, even taken opportunity of this
conference, I would like to urge Chinese
leadership to give a serious contribution to the
very sincere and very clear note we shared with them.

Question 5: You urged Chinese officials not
engaging baseless accusation against Dalai Lama,
after you come to India, china again objected
Dalai Lama's meeting with US president Obama, what is your reaction on that?

Answer: Well, with all respect to Chinese
government, I found our Chinese counterparts,
Chinese leadership, their statement quite
arrogant, which I think very disappointing.
Because China is a very important growing power.
China has tremendous potential, much more
important global role. But sometimes, this is my
personal preservation, I was disappointed, I was
little worried actually, of the sense of
arrogance. Because my hope was china is a ancient
nation, like India, with ancient civilization.
And I thought China with that ancient
civilization would be able to handle this kind of
newly end economic and political cloud that she
has, and much more mutual manner. So I think some
of rectories, including outburst reaction against
future meeting with His Holiness and President
Obama reflects that which is unfortunate. We made
very clear to the Chinese government their issue
with us. And we told them very clearly that His
Holiness doesn't do this, because he has too much
time or he has nothing to do. His Holiness has
moral responsibility to the Tibetan people. Till
such time Chinese leadership comes to its senses
and deals with this situation. His Holiness has
moral responsibility to continue to knock the
doors wherever he can, to raise the concerns
behalf of his people. Yes, I believe, this
morning our counterparts raised that issue and
they also raised with us. I personally, not
because of the that particular meeting, my
concern was on the whole of this kind of arrogant
attitude which, I think, becoming an . I do hope
China would new look again the status, will
handle herself, will behave herself in a much
more dignified and responsible manner. Not
dealing with Tibetan part, but on other issues.
If she does that, I think she has tremendous
important and positive role to play, which His
Holiness the Dalai Lama always very keen China
play. His Holiness is one of the few leaders who
in fact was encouraging the world leadership,
except china, to the forward. I remember very
clearly even in early 70s, when many of the
western nations not even touch with China, like
the expression "at foot pool". His Holiness used
to tell them can't ignore one fourth of the world
population. You need to bring china into the
font. So she now is in the front and we do hope
she will behave much more dignified manner. I am
sure this is just kind of person's face, the growth of this nation.

Question 6: After last meeting and talk, you said
that Chinese counterparts rejected the memorandum
and there was deadlock. Now you say that being
able to continue unless you see productive signs,
my question is was there productive signs from
the Chinese side since the last talk? Second
question is, you mentioned you met His Holiness
the Dalai Lama this morning, what is his reaction to it?

Answer: First of all, I didn't say to discontinue
our dialogue process unless this this happens.
What we have told them very clearly is for the
this person to person dialogue, when you refer to
that, we refer very specifically regarding the in
2002, which Kalsang Gyaltsen and I have been
holding on behalf of His Holiness. Now in order
for this process to be able to continue that
there has to be some tangible moves such as, as
said clearly earlier, they must stop baseless
accusations. We told them very candidly this
makes china look very silly. Some of the
accusations, I believe, this morning also went on
and on for half hour or something, many of the
leaders speaking. I believe some of the
criticisms they have leveled against His
Holiness, I think to be very frankly kidish, .
for example, they made big fuss about His
Holiness "I am son of India". I think this is
very kidish and shows lack of understanding of
cultural values we hold. They have also raised
this, His Holiness "I think my mind is. Why he
says that is the very proud of the Nalanda
tradition of Buddhism. First of all, you see the
we Tibetans are very proud of our Buddhist
cultural heritage. And especially His Holiness
feels that we are caster den of this great
tradition that regards universal Nalanda. Yes,
His Holiness always say it. Our mind or thought
process, philosophy is very much. On the other
hand, of course, you see we have lived in this
country for 50 years, it is a fact.
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